C O M M E N T S
/  H I G H L I G H T S

AL1

16th out of 16

FAC

3q

Slough Town

0-1

AC

3q

BAC Weybridge

1-2

Div 1 LC

1st

Tilbury

0-3

SSC

2q

Westfield

1-5

President

J.R.P.Martin

Chairman

George Tarran

v-c

Noel Bell

Secretary

Gordon Temperley

Match Secretary

Bob Bell

Treasurer

D.Cox

Assistant
Treasurer

W.Inkpen

Press Secretary

Ken Knowlson re-elected this year following
resignation the year before.

Manager

Albert ''Gil' Gillings

Asst Mr Pat C.Tobin

All assistants removed at meeting 10/11/64

Resignation accepted 23/3/65 and replaced by Mr
Bernard Willis, who was co-opted on to the committee 18/5/65

Masseur

Alf Paine

Res Manager

Chas McLoughlin

'A' Team
Manager

Derek Harper

Played mainly at Gibraltar Rec

Committee

A.Harvey, D.Soane, C.McLaughlin, R.McAlpin
(resigned Aug)

A.Hickey co-opted

Groundsman

Colin Bell

20/10/1964

Home
Ground:

West Street, Ewell

C.Corby co-opted 19/1/65

Club colours
were blue and white stripes

Programme 3d.

Mike Christie co-opted 23/3/65

Additional
records contained within the BIG and LITTLE MINUTES BOOK.

Future Chairman and manager

ALSO LEAGUE
MEETING MINUTES TOO.

Division 1
expanded to 16. Leatherhead, Worthing and Edgware were promoted.

Epsom were
reprieved from relegation last season, but would not be so lucky this time.

Epsom
relegated for first time in their history

From Division
2, the top 5 were promoted to Division 1

I met Alf Paine at his home in North Cheam on 17/08/13. He
was 88 in May and still does occasional physio work, although his eyesight
is

very poor now and has been for many years. He was "an
independent" and worked at the Oval for the cricketing Bedser twins and
also

worked at
Wembley Stadium and for West Ham briefly.

He joined Epsom in 1962 at the request of Bob Bell a
future Secretary of the club who was connected through Sutton Olympics and
whose

brother Colin would play for us for twenty years from this
season. He briefly may have visited Walton & Hersham but did not leave
the club until

1965 when approached by George Dring the Tooting &
Mitcham Manager and he was there for another six years before packing up
the

football side of things. This was largely because he
became friends with well-known actor Stratford Johns and an early
Entertainers Football

team called the Top Ten Eleven! He said that future
Manager Gil Gillings would have very little to do with him, except to ask
whether a player

was fit to
play. He agrees that Colin Murphy is THE Colin Murphy who went on to have
success as a Manager with Lincoln and Derby.

He described
Ron Barton as tall and Don Hollands as sturdy and Tony Monk as a good player.

Oddly enough he didn't actually do sponge duties, just
physio off the field, and he believes that Tom Tweedy did the sponge work. He
was a

physio from
the age of 16. He intends to retire fully next May when he is 89.

9/6/64 reported in minutes that the club had complained to
the FA about an illegal approach from Crawley FC for Colin Murphy. Crawley
denied

this and it
was decided to approach Murphy for his observations before deciding whether
to take things further. A second letter

was eventually
sent due to a non reply but it is not reported in club minutes whether a
reply was ever forthcoming.

23/6/64
Accounts paid to the groundsman and £24 6s 7d to Alf Paine.

7/7/64 Mr J Harris resigns as groundsman. Replaced by
Colin Bell who would be engaged at a salary of £3 per week commencing on July
6th.

7/7/64 reference to a request from he Epsom & Ewell
Boys Club for a fete at the ground on 3rd August. Permission granted at no
charge and

the club will
sell refreshments to raise funds.

7/7/64 8
training footballs are to be purchased.

21/7/64 Club
agree to enter East Surrey Hospital Cup.

Doug Jackson
was at Walton for 64/65 and 65/66. Left in Sept 66.

Len Cox and Ron
Jewell in Supporters Hut again.

Aug 64 Frank
Woods signs from Carshalton Athletic

Aug 64 John
O'Shea leaves for Leatherhead

Aug 64 Micky
Iles leaves for Sutton.

Aug 64 Tony
Monk leaves for Banstead

Aug 64 Pat
Tobin signs as coach with Bernard Willis as PT Instructor

Aug 64 George
Richardson, Don Hollands and Tim Higgins all sign from Dorking. Higgins
rejoins club after previous spell.

Aug 64 Dave
Farley and Brian Coombes join Leatherhead

Aug 64 Peter
Bennyworth is new landlord at Plough & Harrow. Learned trade through
George Tarran.

He was a
Bantamweight ABA champ for two years and fought for England on 21 occasions.

4/8/64
reference made to the floodlights at the ground. Several lamps had been out
of action for some time. Will be looked into.

4/8/64
Committee Meetings are to revert to a weekly basis from this point onwards.

11/8/64
Account received for the supply & erection of the new entrance gates. £27
from L.W.Steer. Up and running for new season.

Also reported
that tarmac was laid "around the edge of the pitch". None noted in
early 80's at bottom end, or beyond the stand!

11/8/64 two new
match balls are to be purchased.

15/8/64
Originally scheduled to host Whyteleafe in a friendly but this never happened
and we played a trial match instead.

15/8/64 Trial
game to take place at West Street. Permission granted by Surrey County FA.

22/8/64 I have
copy prog for the game at Hemel Hempstead, but the writing is printed on the
inside of a Swanage Town

63/64
programme. Very odd! Is this an official programme, or what. Check!!

In 2021 I
finally got hold of this programme. It is a standard Hemel issue, so I have
no idea what that copy was all about!

25/8/64 Big discussion about general club discipline. Lots
of little things that needed attention down to leaving kit on the dressing
room floor.

26/8/64 Gordon
Jago is manager at Eastbourne. Future Millwall manager who would sign Trevor
Lee and Phil Walker. Also played for

Maidstone
(capt) v Epsom in 1950/51. Eastbourne scored after 30 minutes, and it was 4-1
by HT. Right on HT the Eastbourne keeper

was injured and
an ambulance was required. 10 men, but the lead was extended to 6-2 by the
end. K.O. 6.15.

31/8/64 Noel Bell is away on holiday from 4th September so
cannot do the catering for the next three home matches. The visiting team are
to

be entertained
at a local café instead.

Aug 64 Bill
Kennedy is Manager at Carshalton Athletic

Aug 64 Tony
Monk returns to Banstead

Sept 64 Dave
Leonard striker at T&M

Sept 64 The
other Dave Leonard is a defender at Sutton and Maidstone. Both would play for
us briefly in the future.

Sept 64 Future
player Gerry O'Rourke is at Wimbledon. Would remain there until April 1972.

2/9/64 Nasty
tackles by the Epsom players at Horsham says West Sussex Times. "one of
the worst displays seen at Queen Street

in recent
years". Very rough. Main culprit was George Richardson and was aided and
abetted by Don Hollands "nearly every foul in

the book".
Player wise, West played in place of Dearlove from the expected line up.

5/9/64 game at
Marlow delayed. Epsom fined £1.1s When it started Epsom scored after 45
seconds. Cheque sent 7/10/64

15/9/64
P.Blumenshear (hard to be certain of spelling) applies for a trial and is
invited to attend.

15/9/64 John Martin the Club President was connected with
Carnation Milk and they used to advertise at the ground until 13th Dec 1962.

This was
referred to in committee Minutes this day as rent is apparently still due for
1963/64 season. Supporters

Club believe
they could pay £250 plus £75 of the arrears by way of 5 payments of £65.
Proposal to be sent to Martin's Solicitors.

19/9/64 Coach
required for the FA Cup trip to Wokingham Town.

19/9/64 Tim
Higgins is cautioned in Epsom's 4-2 win at Wokingham Town.

22/9/64 Mr
Soane advised that the lighting installation repairs have been completed. All
lights are in working order. Cost £49 7s.

22/9/64 Chas
McLaughlin and Derek Harper are to take on the washing of the kit for their
respective teams.

29/9/64 Ronnie
Barton leaves for Carshalton Athletic. Committee agree to accept his
resignation with a seven day delay.

29/9/64 club write to John Martin's Solicitors Messrs
Higgs, Thornton & Samwell to discuss the purchase of the West Street
ground. They

will respond
when Mr Martin returns from a trip away.

Oct 64 Ray
Watkins moves from Carshalton to T&M

Oct 64 Gerry
O'Rourke is at Wimbledon

Oct 64 Gerry
Fowler in goal for Wimbledon A team

Oct 64 Roger
Brunwin at Malden Town

Oct 64 Peter
Kenchington is at Carshalton Athletic

3/10/64 Club
refers to a joint raffle they are holding with Barking FC! The winner gets a
Mini Minor! Closing in November.

It is the
second season the raffle has been held.

3/10/64 Roger
Wallbanks makes debut. Joined from Croydon Amateurs.

3/10/64 Epsom
lose 1-0 at home to Slough in FAC 3q. Would have been away to Hendon in final
qualifying round.

6/10/64
reported in minutes that AGM is to be delayed from 11th October to 18th due
to "printing difficulties".

6/10/64 also
advised that the club had been fined for the delayed start at Marlow on 5th
September.

10/10/64 First
team at Westfield. 'A' team travelled on same coach as they were at Woking!

Oct 64 Les
Geeraerts joins from Tooting & Mitcham.

18/10/64 ground
to be used for Speedway Riders XI v T.V. All Stars team. 50 posters to be
printed. Admission

by programme
only to comply with the law on Sunday football. K.O. 2.30 pm.

However it was
decided at the Committee Meeting on 13th October that a programme would not
be printed as the available names were

"doubtful".
Instead there would be no admission, just a collection at the match.

AGM Sunday
18/10/64 at 11 a.m.  -Originally
planned for 11th Oct but printing of the finances couldn't be completed in
time.

All the above
officers re-elected at AGM.

Supporters Club raised £1552 over season

Oct 64 Average
gate of around 200 advised.

Oct 64 Peter
Keary, John Berry both at Walton, with Doug Jackson,  Dave Worby and Larry Pritchard.

24/10/64 Drawn
away at West Wickham but game switched to West Street.

27/10/64
Players refusing to play for the reserve team, so manager called to next
meeting

Special meeting
called for 29/10/64

At that
meeting, various sub-committees were set up to report on various aspects of
the club.

Welfare Officer

Executive,
Maintenance, Team Arrangements, Press & Publicity, Social, and Welfare
Committees set up!

Chas McLaughlin

BAC Weybridge
playing at King's Head Lane, Chertsey Road, Byfleet. Formerly known as
Vickers advise Epsom Advertiser.

Nov 64 future playre and Manager Adrian Hill makes senior
debut for Bromley as an inside right! Would eventually play right half in a
2-3-5

10/11/64
Committee felt that manager and assistant appeared to work in opposite ways.
Assistant fired!

Nov 64 future
player Dave Le Grice and former player Steve Dunwoody are both with Dulwich
Hamlet.

Nov 64 Ray
Colfar is at Guildford City

Nov 64 Ted
Murphy is at Wimbledon

14/11/64
Johnny Eales makes his debut aged 17, after coming through the A and reserve
teams. Would go on to have a great career.

Graham Jasper
also makes his debut this day - recommended to the club by Roger Wallbanks.

14/11/64 Erith
& Belvedere are beaten 2-1 for Epsom's first League win of the season.

Programme
advises that kick offs are moving from 2.30 to 2.15 due to the light at that
time of year.

21/11/64 Epsom
lost 5-6 to Horsham at West Street after being 5-1 up!

Horsham report
of both games this season is in Horsham programme 29/11/03

24/11/64 it was
decided to remove the covered accommodation at the top end of the ground due
to its condition. See 14/4/65

23/11/64
Supporters Club advise they have donated £2,017 an all time record.

24/11/64 Gerry
Whooley leaves for Southall

28/11/64 Bill
Mackay mispen as Epsom can only draw 1-1 at Wembley. Would have to wait until
2008 before we won there.

1/12/64 Colin
Murphy leaves for Croydon Amateurs

Dec 64 Peter
Keary  and Larry Pritchard join
Leatherhead from Walton

Dec 64 John
Martin joins Westfield as a player - former Chertsey Town player and future
Westfield Manager - two brothers Jimmy

and Paul are
both at Woking

Dec 64 future player Fred Botfield is at Tooting &
Mitcham. Another brief future player Eddie Clack also joins them from Sutton
this month.

5/12/64 3
players reported by referee after game v Slough. Game also started late as
Epsom needed a change kit. No action taken.

Also, ref noted
that no one was there to open the dressing rooms until 1.45 (k.o. 2.15)

19/12/64 10
minutes late starting at Eastbourne due to Epsom arriving late. No action
taken by League

26/12/64 Both
Epsom and Dorking wanted a morning kick off but the Fixture Secretary
disagreed!

26/12/64 Bill
Mackay wore red socks because the team were a pair short!

29/12/64 George
Richardson leaves for Dorking

Jan 65 Club
calls on all youngsters to come along and join in training, but A team still
folds in March/April this year.

Jan 65 Paddy
Long (21) is at Hounslow but may rejoin Carshalton

Jan 65 former player Brian Brumwell listed in Stratford
Express as one of East London's top ten sportsmen, alongside Bobby Moore
and

Johnny Byrne -
Captain of Wanstead Cricket Club who won the London Championship.
Multi-talented and also brilliant at table tennis.

He plays for
Summerstown on a Sunday along with Peter Kenchington

Jan 65 Tom
McCready debut for Wimbledon

Jan 65 Jim
Crane is now at Mickleham

2/1/65 Had to
play a large part of the game with ten men at Letchworth after Tony McGrogan
suffered a badly cut leg. 10 men.

2/1/65
Attendance advised as "a mere 218" Gate £19. 17s 6d.

5/1/65
temporary licence for clubhouse and tea bar renewed by council

12/1/65 John
Chesnutt leaves for Met Police

Jan 65 By this
time, programme only refers to Ron Jewell doing the Supporters Club work, not
Len Cox.

Jan 65 Barry
Rowan plays for Millwall as they dump Fulham out of the FA Cup - lives at 59
Longley Avenue, Wembley

23/1/65 End of
scoring streak for Bill Mackay. Had scored in all of the last ten games, but
hit woodwork in this one 5 times!

23/1/65
ex-player B.Coombes sent off for Dorking v Epsom

Feb 65 Epsom
& Ewell asked by League to deal with administration more rapidly.

Feb 65 John
O'Shea returns from Leatherhead

16/2/65 Bill
Mackay leaves club for Harrow Town - works as a civil engineer in North
London

16/2/65 Tim
Higgins leaves for Dorking.

20/2/65
Uxbridge (H) is p-p. Snow.

20/2/65 No
games "for our three teams" due to snowfall. This indicates that
the 'A' team are still playing at this date.

Bizarrely many
other games are played and only Epsom's two matches were postponed!

23/2/65
Solicitor appointed to look into the activities of the Holding Company, as
the conditions of the lease

were
unsatisfactory to the Committee. Club rules also likely to be rewritten.

Mar 65 Fred
Boxfield (Botfield) Ted Fuller and David (Fred) Grinrod sign from Tooting

6/3/65 Johnny
Eales suffers cuts to arm and neck after running into the wire surrounding
the pitch at Slough.

March 65 former
keeper Ray Watkins is at Tooting & Mitcham.

Mar 65 Paddy
Hasty is at Salisbury in Western League

9/3/65 Fulham
manager Vic Buckingham puts in offer of £500 p.a. for club to let ground two
nights a week

for training of
Fulham juniors. Not clear if this was accepted.

13/3/65 Colin
Page saves one of two penalties v Erith who only had ten men after 30 mins.
Epsom still lost!

20/3/65 Harlow
Tn (H)(L) Epsom played an ineligible player Maurice Griffiths who was
registered with Carshalton Athletic.

No action
taken, even though he scored, but Mr Temperley said he wouldn't play for the
club again this season.

However, he
played v Hertford and the club would lose points for it. See below 1/5/65

20/3/65 Harlow
scored after 45 seconds

23/3/65 Manager
Albert (Gil) Gillings resigned (work commitments). Bernard Willis took over
until end of season.

He was a
flooring contracts manager. Many applicants for the vacant position says Bob
Bell.

23/3/65
Chairman informed by Epsom Advertiser (Mr Wild) about the proposed sale of
the ground

to Ideal
Homesteads Ltd, who had applied for planning permission to build. To be heard
12/4/65. - Rejected later

The club wrote
to appeal against the plan for 99 flats, 96 garages and 27 parking spaces on
the basis that it was

contrary to the
Surrey Development Plan which allocates the ground for open space purposes.

In view of
this, a loan was taken out by the club to cover outstanding rent. This £250
loan was to be

personally
guaranteed by the Committee (Temperley, Jewell, R.Bell, Christie, Corley,
Inkpen and Tarran)

3/4/65 Epsom
were 38 minutes late starting at Wokingham. Fined £1.1s

Apr 65 Gordon
Cairns now manager of Worthing

Apr 65 Steve
Dunwoody rejoins from Dulwich

Apr 65 Dave
Leonard former Sutton player joined MST in 62/63 and is still there

Apr 65 Gerry
O'Rourke is at Wimbledon

6/4/65 Mr
Townsend attended and provided a brief history of the club. The ground was
sold to Epsom by Mr Bradshaw

with the wish
that football would always be played on the ground.

10/4/65 Former
player Ray Colfar plays for Guildford City this season, but plays this day
for their reserves in a 4-1 win at London

Colney v
Arsenal Reserves, and Colfar scored from 20 yards past the young Arsenal
keeper Bob Wilson, who played in Arsenal's

double winning
team in 1971, had a successful career as a TV pundit.

14/4/65 EEBC
wrote to Epsom noting that the covered accommodation at the top of the ground
was still standing. Not happy

and wanted it
demolished as soon as possible.

Eintracht
Frankfurt expected visitors on 19/4/65 k.o. 11am

Unlikely to have been a programme for this
match.

In fact they
were met by v-c N.Bell at Victoria Station on 15/4/65

Not in the big collection

A tour was
arranged for them to watch West Ham on Fri 16/4 and then Chelsea that
afternoon, with a tour of London

afterwards.  On Sat 17/4 game to be played against
Dorking. Sunday 18/4 coach tour of Surrey and Sussex.

Monday 19/4
after game, visit to London Airport and Windsor Castle. Tues 20/4 full tour
of London with

a farewell
social at West St in the evening. Tim Higgins and George Richardson played
for Dorking v Eintracht.

A team of past
and present Epsom players was to be selected for this game, along with
plaques to be presented.

Mr R.Bell sorted accommodation out for all players.
Eintracht won 3-1. Likely to have been a Youth eleven according to
Advertiser.

22/04/65 East
Surrey Charity Cup match between Epsom and Redhill at Redhill. Lost 0-3.
Currently classed as a friendly.

It was an East
Surrey Hospital Cup match though and should it have been an actual match in
club records?

Applications
for manager received from Mr P.Sadler and Mr D.J.Sadler. Mr Fred Perry (ex
Liverpool and Sittingbourne) also attended

an interview.
Mr Perry had lost a leg in a car crash which ad ended his career at the age
of 24, and was a local lad.

Later
applications from Mr AC Graffham (previous player?) and Mr J.Gaymer

24/4/65 Peter Keary and Larry Pritchard, both listed as
Leatherhead players are to play for Surrey at St Austell v Cornwall in SF of
County

Championship.
B&B v Suffolk in other SF.

24/4/65 +
27/4/65 + 2/5/65 late rendering of match cards. No action taken by League.

29/4/65
Planning permission refused by the council. No one can build houses at West
Street. Yet!

1/5/65 5
players signed from Tooting for game at Hertford. Tooting's league season had
finished, so they could do this.

Players were
Dave Fillery, Dave Leonard, Alf Baldwin, Eddie Clack, and John Aldrich

1/5/65 Game
kicked off at 6pm to avoid a clash with the televised cup final.

1/5/65 Epsom
won their last match 4-2 v Hertford, but played an unregistered player.

Protest
received from Dorking, who wrote to the Athenian League, who advised Epsom in
writing on 8/5/65.

Epsom played
Maurice Griffiths under another name Chris O'Mahoney according to a Dorking
official at the game.

Epsom denied
this but lost the appeal, had 2 points deducted and were fined £5.5s and were
relegated to

Division 2 as a
result of the loss of points.

Club not
entered for FA Cup due to error by secretary G Temperley. Thought entry date
was 31/5. It was 1/5

1/6/65 Club
again decides to apply for Associate Membership of the FA and Full membership
of the London FA

1/6/65 Club
gets three copies of the lease, one held by Chairman and one each by
Secretary and Supp Club. I have one of them.

New club rules
also adopted.

22/6/65 Stand
to be reroofed and glazed ends fitted. Cost £250

AGM 8/7/65

Reserves:

Athenian League Res Division 1

Res Manager

Chas McLoughlin

Position

14th out of 16

NT

2nd

Horsham

2-4

SIC

1st

Sutton United

0-1

22/8/64 Reserve
team had to start with ten players v Hemel Hempstead. Norman Dearlove arrived
half an hour late!

27/8/64 K.O.
6.15 v Eastbourne whose first team visited the day before. Won 3-1.

26/9/64 Erith
& Belvedere are defeated at home in the Neale Trophy by three clear goals
but they were all in extra time.

3/10/64
Hertford reserve game started late. Epsom were asked for an explanation.
Fined 10s.6d

6/10/64 Club Minutes refer to a letter we sent to the SCFA
relating to a postponement of the Surrey Intermediate Cup tie with
Whyteleafe, but

it is not clear
when this was as we had games every week. It would be played on 10th October,
winning 2-0.

17/10/64 Coach
required for the League trip to Letchworth.

5/12/64 No game
for Reserves.

12/12/64 Epsom
were 15 minutes late at Eastbourne. Fined 10s.6d.

16/1/65 No game
for Reserves.

20/2/65 Slough
(A) is p-p. Snow.

20/2/65 No
games "for our three teams" due to snowfall. This indicates that
the 'A' team are still playing at this date.

6/3/65 Wembley
(H) is p-p. Almost all Reserve games off but first team matches were all
played.

20/3/65 No game
for Reserves.

27/3/65 No game
for Reserves.

13/4/65 Don
Hollands reported following Horsham Res game on 1/4/65. Presume this was a
sending off. Hearing 1/6/65

Suspended for
14 days from 21/8/65 plus pay costs of hearing which were £2.19s.

Epsom Advertiser advises that we lost 5-2 at home to Erith
& Belvedere on Saturday which would have been 26/04/65. However, my
records

say this was a
Monday 19/04/65 with a score of 1-4 instead. Check!

'A' Team

Surrey Combination - Southern Division

Position

11th out of 11th. Possibly withdrew towards the
end of the season.

LC

Wealdstone

0-16

'A' Team
Manager

Derek Harper

All home games
intended to be played at Gibraltar Rec.

19/9/64 Epsom
keeper Brownstreet was "brilliant" and kept the score down v
Guildford. HT 0-0 but lost 2-0 @ Ewell.

26/9/64 game
with Redhill was to be postponed as they had an FA Youth Cup fixture on this
date.

3/10/64 Derek Harper had to play in this game as he was
let down by a player at short notice and had no way of getting a replacement.

17/10/64 Lost
2-7 at home to Redhill. K.O. 3pm.

24/10/64 due to
travel to Leatherhead for a League match this day but it doesn't look like it
happened.

21/11/64 League
game at Guildford City was abandoned due to fog with Epsom 3-1 down at the
time.

20/2/65 No
games "for our three teams" due to snowfall. This indicates that
the 'A' team are still playing at this date.

Including 3/4
Epsom's record reads Played 13 W2 D0 L11 F27 A65

10/4/65 In
return match at Josephs Road on Saturday evening, Epsom lose 8-1 to Guildford
City. HT 3-0. Young scored for Epsom

& Ewell
with a penalty. Coxon Ht for Guildford. LU: Pearson, Williams, Young
(possibly Adrian?), Butt, Cosgrove, Duke, Booker,

Lambert, Coit,
Ford, Rutter

17/4/64
Scheduled to play Walton & Hersham. Also 5 other matches unlisted at this
time, some of which were either played

midweek,
although some may have been awarded. For 6 o/s matches, Final table indicates
all 6 were lost. GD F5 A33.

It is possible that the Walton & Hersham match may
have even been a double header, or played for four points, as this would
tally with the table

on 24/04/65
showing a goal difference of 11 in Walton's favour but with two wins, not one

Practice
Matches

Public Trial
15th August

Permission granted by Surrey F.A.

Score

Prog?

15/08/1964

Probables v Possibles - Probables won 3-0

18/08/1964

Leatherhead

H

7-1

Mackay (5), Higgins, Pert

22/04/1965

Redhill

A

0-3

Charity Match - see comments above